ditka
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Post by ditka on Mar 22, 2006 16:43:28 GMT -5
Hi everyone! As I started topic about the fish and how it effects endo I decided that the second type of food that will be interesting for discussion will be the diary products. I learned from endo-resolved.com that the diary products and very bad for endo and I have eliminated them from my diet. There are just some questions that I would like to ask: 1. How exactly does diary products affect endo and should we remove them forever from our diet? 2. What should we eat to compensate the important things that we take from the diary products, especially the Calcium? I know that we can take tablets with vitamins and minerals but they are still chemicals! What from the natural foods can replace the diary foods? 3. I see that the milk and all diary products /as cheese/ have to be avoided but the yogurt is recommended! What exactly is live yogurt? I am sorry but I am a bit confused because in my country we don't make difference between milk and yogurt? We name the yogurt just as another type of milk so it is still a diary product!
Thank you in advance for your answers! love and light:Ditka
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Post by ouchy on Mar 22, 2006 23:41:31 GMT -5
Hi, Ditka. 1) Apparently, milk products increase inflammation, which exacerbates the inflammation, causing more pain from the endo. I've found that if I drink milk and take a fiber supplement, that I dont' have much problem, because the fiber I take (psyllium husk) soothes inflammation. I also take a B-complex to reduce inflammation. 2) Vitamins and minerals are naturally occuring substances and in most cases, not synthetic, although they can be of differenty qualities, so you get what you pay for in most instances; but if you don't feel comfortable taking vitamins, you could obtain more calcium from your choice of foods. Here is a great link for non-dairy food sources of calcium. home.bluegrass.net/~jclark/calcium_foods.htm . The link also gives you dietary values based on the food and serving size. 3. Live yogurt contains live bacterial cultures--but don't worry! It's good bacteria..."probiotics." The good bacteria you will find is commonly different strains of Lactobacili, and most commonly, Lactobacilus Acidophilus. There are other pro-biotic strains such as Bifidus. There are several other common ones, but you get the idea. Just read the yogurt container to see which live cultures it contains, and you'll surely recognize some of the ones I have listed. Kefir is another great source of probiotics, and it has more of them! The probiotics are supposed to cut down on yeast infections, ease irritable-bowel syndrome, and ease gas, among other benefits. Yogurt and Kefir are still dairy; however, they are the most beneficial, because of so many benefits from the pro-biotics. Hope this helps a bit.
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Post by Dinah on Mar 23, 2006 12:01:03 GMT -5
Also milk contains hormones, and that is not good for endo. I drink rice milk instead.
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avonp
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Post by avonp on Mar 23, 2006 15:31:06 GMT -5
My boyfriend is was a dairy farmer and the hormones that they give the cows don't only go in the milk.
Milk is very bad now compared to 100 years ago.
Now the farmers put hormones in the cow so it can have a baby without being in heat.
Those hormones go in the milk and manure.
Then the manure is spread on the lands so that it grows denser and it grows faster, higher in fiber, etc.
The cows eat this and produce more milk and manure, and it goes on and on.
So the cows get more and more hormones.
Did you know that the reason why men get infertile more then ever is that the women takes the pill, they urinate some of the hormones. Those hormones can't be filtrated in the water and people drink that water with hormones. Men are not supposed to have estrogen, right!
the humans are actually responsible for all the diseases now.
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Post by ouchy on Mar 23, 2006 20:08:20 GMT -5
true. i forgot about the hormones. in my old town, we had a dairy where you could buy unpasteurized milk from hormone-free cows. too bad one of the cows became rabid! the dairy had to close.
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ditka
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Post by ditka on Mar 24, 2006 16:51:19 GMT -5
Thank you very much for all the info! ouchy I don't know what exactly is psyllium husk beacuse we don't have many healthy suppliements in my country. Thank you for the link about the calcium! Now I know I am not gonna suffer from the Calcium loss since I am eating a lot of the other healthy foods that have it in them! There is just one thing I still don't understand. Beacuse the yougurt is made from milk /I myself can make it at home/ doesn't that mean that it has to be as bad for the endo ad the milk! I personaly haven't eaten any milk and especialy yogurt for a half year now beacuse I had a lot of problems with my IBS. When I was eating yougurt I had diarrhea with teriblle pain. Now I don't have problems with my IBS thanks to some herbs I took but I am afraid to eat yogurt any more.
I have problems and pain with my endo only during my period, does that mean that I have to avoid milk and yougurt only then or at all!?
Dinah what is rice milk? I never heared of it? You are so luck you live is a bigger countries! Here in Bulgarian we don't have many special foods and also some of the foods here doesn't even have all that they contain writen on them!
Have any of you seen any research Online on the diary products /milk, yogurt, cheese, yelow cheese/ and their connection with endo?!
By the way it is nice to meet you all! You are all so kind!
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Post by litayoliechi on Jun 14, 2006 10:49:03 GMT -5
Also, there is milk that doesn't have hormones it in -"rBST" free. I know the Country Fresh in Michigan is like that. I have also heard that Miejer milk is rBST free. And its normally priced so yea for money saving! ^_^ Doesnt' help with the inflam but yea.
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Post by nicolaxx on Oct 25, 2006 6:18:01 GMT -5
Hi Girls!!
My naturopath said i can have goats cheese and mozarella has anyone tried these types of cheese? I have also been using goats milk in my tea instead of soya as this didn't agee with my tummy and it was ejected !!
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Post by ouchy on Oct 25, 2006 8:13:21 GMT -5
I like goat's milk cheese and mozarella! I also love feta! Never had a problem with any of these. Haha. Now that I think about it, the feta I eat is goat's milk .
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Post by nicolaxx on Oct 25, 2006 13:00:19 GMT -5
Cool, it passes the test! though what i meant was soya seemed ok in my tea but when i had it over rice crispies obviously in a larger quantity - it ejected .
Now had i read this thread before.........
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jp
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Post by jp on Oct 25, 2006 18:14:59 GMT -5
I have really eliminated soy milk from my diet...it is so overprocessed that it does not digest well in my tummy, I also feel it induces cramping... I have heard softer unpasteurized cheeses are ok, and I find them to be milder on me. the mozzarella has to be the water or the buffalo, the hard stuff will kill me and stuff me up, the fresher and more local the better...
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Post by ouchy on Oct 25, 2006 20:36:32 GMT -5
OOPS, nic! Sorry. I meant I eat goat's CHEESE feta. I haven't tried any of the cheese in my coffee hee.
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mel26
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Post by mel26 on Aug 15, 2007 3:33:45 GMT -5
I have some of the symptoms of lactose intolerance. I tried rice milk, and have been drinking Lacteeze lately. It is regular milk with lactase added to help with digestion. The 2% is creamier than reg. 2% milk, and much better for me. The weird thing is I don't have problems with cheese (cottage, brick, or even yogurt). Luckily in Canada rbst hormones have been banned, no blood clots in my milk, thanks!!! *Although, I saw organic milk in the grocery store for $8.50, totally ridiculous... Can someone tell me if goats milk tastes the same as reg. milk? I'm too cheap to experiment with it!
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Post by camille on Aug 15, 2007 9:13:17 GMT -5
I have never tried goats milk but I just saw a program on the food channel about goats milk ice cream - I guess you can't tell the difference - taste wise at least!
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mel26
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Post by mel26 on Aug 18, 2007 3:41:22 GMT -5
I've seen soya yogurt in the dairy section of the grocery store. Tried it, not that bad at all! I'm trying to eliminate lactose, and dairy moreover... Even when there are alternatives, it's hard to give up the 'good stuff' (whipped cream, chocolate milkshakes...) I feel kind of addicted, lol!
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