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Post by Karen on Jul 12, 2012 15:24:18 GMT -5
Hey, totally get the fear, but almost all the ppt worked more in my lower abdomen and didn't require internal work! We tried a tiny bit of internal work but found the most benefit was external. Imagine someone kneading your lower abs, breaking apart adhesions, and making more room for your organs so they have room to move freely and thus don't cramp and yell. Amazing! Some really good massage therapists are trained in it, too. Might be any easy way to try it out!
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Post by jessabug on Aug 3, 2012 17:44:34 GMT -5
That's a relief to hear, Karen! I'm definitely more open-minded to give it a try if that's the case. I wouldn't mind that sort of thing. I'm just so uncomfortable with peoples' hands in there.. as I'm sure many of you know the pain that it can cause! On another note... I'm starting to worry a bit about a certain type of pain I've been getting. It happened once last month on the 10th (I remembered to write it down) and then again last night. This pain is about an 8 out of 10 on the pain scale for me (my "10" is what I consider to be so bad that I need an urgent care/ER visit because I'm so beside myself), and it is very strange so I'm wondering if any of you have experienced something similar. It is on my left side, and begins as a typical cramp in my whole lower abdomen but then radiates up my side. Once that happens, it feels almost exactly like the most intense running cramp you could have, only it doesn't go away. It's very sensitive and any strenuous movement can make it absolutely excruciating (even getting up onto my bed last night, which is raised, hurt badly), and it compels me to walk hunched over. The first time this happened, which was last month, I thought maybe a cyst had ruptured. It also reminded me of the way I felt after my serious trip to the ER a year ago when my ovary was stuck to my pelvic wall. I took a percocet and the pain went away and when I woke up in the morning I felt fine. Last night, I didn't have any painkillers. It lasted throughout the night and when I got out of bed in the morning it wasn't quite as bad, but it was still there. I took a percocet when I got back from my parents house a few hours ago, but once the meds wore off the pain came back. It's never lasted this long. In a few hours it will have been 24 hours since it first started. As I was typing this, I actually had to make a mad dash for the toilet. Almost threw up, then fainted when I was trying to get from the toilet to my bed. I am confused. At first I wanted to blame the meds, because you know I"m sensitive to them, but I haven't had any trouble with this new stuff and have taken it a number of times, so why would it start now? And why would I faint?? I have to work in an hour and 20 minutes... I'm afraid to call in sick because they've said a number of times that "you just don't call in sick to this job" .. so I'm going to go there and just pray that they'll see how big of a mess I am and send me home. You girls know how much I hate being a drama queen. But what are your thoughts on my going to Urgent Care after I get off work if I still feel this way? I only ask because I find the persistence of the pain, combined with the nausea and dizziness/fainting, to be kind of alarming. I think part of me is scared that my ovary is stuck again, since it seems to be so fond of doing that. Oh, and sorry for this lovely tidbit of info but in case this crossed anyone's mind it's not constipation. I promise. Lol. Help
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Post by JC on Aug 4, 2012 7:57:03 GMT -5
I'm sorry this is happening again Jess! Is this a completely new pain that you've never had before? And just to clarify, it only happens during a certain time of your cycle? Have you noticed anything that makes it better or worse? Personally, I only seek medical attention when I am experiencing something that is outside of my normal/chronic symptoms or if pain is so severe and not relieved by any of my normal efforts. If it's severe, then maybe urgent care or ER is appropriate but that's a judgement you'll have to make. I can't really advise you when to go to the doctor or not but I think you'll have a good idea if it gets severe enough or if you're really worried. Are you able to call and leave a message for Dr. Redwine about this and see what he says?
How are you feeling today??
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Post by MustangGtGirl on Aug 4, 2012 10:32:14 GMT -5
Hi Jess,
This is the exact pain I had. It's like a pulling and tugging almost feels like your organs are at tug of war. The hospital the one time I went couldnt do anything and then when I had my lap in may the found my uterus was connected to my ovaries. This is the same pain I am feeling again and nothing helps. Heat makes it worse, cold makes it worse and so do the pain pills because it numbs everything around it but it still hurt because it was connected and when I would move I saw stars. i am going through it again.
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Post by jessabug on Aug 4, 2012 18:08:27 GMT -5
Jenaya, it's new in the sense that I haven't felt anything like it since before my first surgery, and afterwards I was told that my left ovary had glued itself to my pelvic wall. I would say that it's sporadic, because the last time it happened was on July 10th and I got it again the night of August 2nd... doesn't seem like it's in the same time block at all. Kimmie, your response supports my idea that it might be my ovary re-attaching itself yet again (this will now be the third time, if that's the case), but I have trouble believing that my endo could have grown back that fast after having surgery with such a phenomenal surgeon. Also, I'm thinking, why would I have this pain last month out of nowhere, then it goes away, and comes back a couple of weeks later? If my ovary had gotten stuck again, I'd think it would be a consistent pain. That being said, today the pain is still there, but much better than it was. Like Kimmie says, it's especially worse when I move a certain way, as though something is stuck to something else, or swollen, or what have you. Since this is outside of my comfort zone in terms of pain I usually experience, and especially since it's being persistent and not going away, I think I'm going to make an appointment on Monday to see a doctor about it. I'm not exactly looking forward to it, but at least now I know a lot more about my condition and how to advocate for myself! Also, I haven't contacted Dr. Redwine about it.. my mom wanted me to, but I keep having to remind her that he's a surgeon, and not my primary care physician. I don't want to bother him unless absolutely necessary, because he's not cheap, and he's not technically my doctor.
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Post by 1234 on Aug 4, 2012 19:09:33 GMT -5
Jess, why don't you send Dr. Redwine an email? Is this occurring around ovulation? the ovary will move more at ovulation, and it could be adhesions from surgery, not just endo. Can you feel anything on that side that is swollen or pushed out of place? So sorry about this, girl. Sending love and hopes that you're better!
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Post by jessabug on Aug 5, 2012 7:42:05 GMT -5
Hi,
Kristin I was mentioning earlier that I feel odd emailing Redwine nowadays, after all he is a surgeon and not my primary care doc. I don't want him hating me for peppering him with emails!
I woke up about an hour ago because of more pain and haven't been able to sleep. I don't want to take more painkillers because that requires that I cook myself some food beforehand... which I am wayyyy too tired to do. I also was drinking earlier tonight, and although I only had two drinks, painkillers don't mix well with my body and sure as heck won't mix well with any residual alcohol in my system -- I learned that the hard way!
I am a little squeamish about poking and prodding myself, so I haven't done much of that... but I did notice something interesting that I'm curious what Jenaya and our other med people/students will think of this! It's hot here tonight and so I have a fan on myself. I was laying flat on my back and I put my hand on my stomach where it was hurting, and my skin was kind of hot. Out of curiosity, I put my hand on the other side of my stomach, and there was a definite difference. It was cool to the touch on that side. I also put my hand on my upper stomach and it was cool also. So I feel like that spot is almost feverish or something? Could that mean there's some major inflammation going on there?
Also, Kristin, I feel like I don't know much about adhesions but I've heard that they cause more of a tugging discomfort than an actual aching/piercing pain? Is this true? That's what I had heard in the past which is why I didn't/don't think it's adhesions. Another reason I don't think that it's adhesions is because although the source of the worst pain is around my left ovary, it often radiates down into my lower abdomen in a dull cramping feeling which I don't think would be tied to adhesions? Am I wrong?
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Post by semicolon on Aug 5, 2012 8:53:04 GMT -5
Jess- you spent a lot of time and money going to see Dr. Redwine so I don't think an email is out of line. I email my specialist here or there for an update, and I know he doesn't mind (but I've had three surgeries with him, so I figure I've achieved frequent flyer status). Just keep it brief and see what happens
That spot could be inflammation. And adhesions vs, endo is an tricky question (unless we could shrink down into little ships and tour our own insides- that would be crazy!). I had hard fibrosis on my bladder after the endo was removed, and I had worse bladder pain from that (pain, not just a pulling/aching), so I think adhesions can be that bad. Since it was removed in June it is much better (I hope it doesn't come back).
On the left side there is a lot for that ovary to get stuck to (colon, uterus, sidewall) unfortunately. Endo is so weird. I was just thinking, when my ovary was stuck to my colon I never had any ovulation pain but my period pain was crazy awful. Where are you in your cycle for this pain?
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Post by jessabug on Aug 5, 2012 9:12:24 GMT -5
Right now I am approximately 8-10 days away from getting my period. I already had my ovulation pain on July 26th, which is exactly the 14th day of my cycle. This pain didn't start until a few days ago, so I think it's unrelated to ovulation? I'm not sure though. What is fibrosis, semi? And that's a good point about the money we shelled out to Dr. Redwine, I didn't think of it that way!
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Post by MustangGtGirl on Aug 5, 2012 12:32:02 GMT -5
Jess,
I made a typo, My uterus was attached to my colon not my overies. Does it hurt more when you eat or BM.
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Post by jessabug on Aug 5, 2012 12:49:34 GMT -5
Yes, definitely to when I have to go to the bathroom (BM not pee). Also yes if I over eat, but not if I eat like usual. I noticed that whenever I have to BM the pain is more pronounced, and it's worst when I'm actually going. Then afterwards the pain is alleviated a bit. I don't consider it to be constipation or a gastro issue because I have regular BM's that are normal.
That is awful that your uterus was attached to your colon! I had a partial sigmoid resection because of the endo I had there, but I don't think I had endo anywhere else. For my last surgery with Dr. Redwine, he didn't really suspect any bowel endo so he didn't have me do a bowel prep and he didn't check there really (just my colon area and whatnot but not up any higher). I'm starting to wonder if he should have :/ but I have to keep reminding myself that he's the expert, and he would have if there had been any indication of issues there, wouldn't he?
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Post by semicolon on Aug 5, 2012 14:17:33 GMT -5
Fibrosis is sort of another word for adhesions, such as fibrous connective tissue. I think "adhesions" implies two structures being stuck together, but you can have fibrous tissue that might not be sticking anything together. My colon kept getting stuck to my uterus as well after each surgery, but it is all whether it causes symptoms or not (that was after my resection too). He put Interceed on my uterus this time to help, but sometimes things just want to stick together!
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Post by MustangGtGirl on Aug 6, 2012 18:00:44 GMT -5
That is exact. I am almost afraid to eat bc if I eat just a little too much the pain is soooo bad. To be feeling it again since the surgery 3 months ago is scary but having a new Dr helps a little. I wish I could tell you something that helps but the only thing that helps a little is putting pressure on it and getting up and down and turning from side to side real easy or you will see stars. I hope this is not what it is for you.
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Post by Karen on Aug 6, 2012 18:21:45 GMT -5
The way you're describing makes me think it's adhesions, at least partly to blame. I've read they start within a few days of surgery and just get tougher over time, which may explain why things are just starting to feel off now. When I had adhesion pain, it wasn't constant, but exercise made things worse and I hurt for days after if things seemed to get pulled in the wrong direction.
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Post by jessabug on Aug 22, 2012 16:04:10 GMT -5
Hi everyone, I'm not sure if you guys remember this, but a while back I was talking pretty fiercely about quitting my job. Today I'm taking my two weeks notice letter in to my manager and quitting. She talked me out of it the first time I tried to, somehow convincing me that she was on my side and things would change. Granted, the assistant manager and I are actually pretty good friends now so that isn't the issue, but everything else is still pretty upsetting. I've been there for almost 3 months now and they still won't train me on how to do anything, always brushing me off and telling me to do customer service. They are very disorganized and I have a lot of trouble with the way that they schedule. They're supposed to have it made 2 weeks ahead of schedule at all times, but usually I don't find out until a few days before the upcoming week (like I'll find out on Saturday what my work schedule is for the week that starts Sunday). That is REALLY hard for me to deal with when I am trying to schedule things like job interviews (for salaried positions post-grad), doctor appointments, etc. I'm just fed up with it. I've decided to go in today and tell her that I'm quitting for personal reasons and hand her my two weeks notice. I figured that reason was best to minimize conflict and prevent her from a) peppering me with questions and b) talking me out of quitting like she did last time. This time I am going to stand my ground and make it clear that this is non-negotiable. Now that I've sounded all full of myself and confident, can I just say I am PEEING MY PANTS ABOUT THIS?!?! I hate conflict, I hate quitting on negative terms, and I hate letting people down. I am so nervous and anxious about quitting this job because I KNOW they will be upset about it no matter what my reason is. They are a snipey, catty group and they will probably eat it up and find any way they can to demonize me. It's stupid because everyone who knows me says that I shouldn't care what they think because I'm a better person than them and they don't even know me, but I am still just sick about this whole situation. I can't wait for it to be over. I haven't had anxiety this bad in several years And to think it's all because of a stupid little job that I took FOR FUN!!!
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