avonp
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Post by avonp on Apr 3, 2006 8:00:12 GMT -5
Has anyone taken marvolon bc pills before.
I think there progesterone only pills and i feel kinda weird since i started them 2 weeks ago.
My breast gained a size and hurt so bad. not to complain cuz my bf seems to like it even thou he cant touch them. Hi! hi!
And i found myself eating allot of pickles, i really crave for them ( i eat them wile watching a movie instead of popcorn)
Just wondering if anybody has these side effects?
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Post by juliaNZ on Jan 27, 2007 22:10:41 GMT -5
Hi
I was taking Marvelon since I was about 15.
Now, since I have been diagnosed with endo, i have been told by my specialists that the pill probably made my endo growth worse.
Help?
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Post by ouchy on Jan 27, 2007 23:32:13 GMT -5
Now, since I have been diagnosed with endo, i have been told by my specialists that the pill probably made my endo growth worse. Not that I am fond of any b.c. pills, but I would seek a second opinion. The pill is given to reduce the spread of endo, as the progestin shrinks the implants and doesn't allow the endometrium to get very thick. You might try a different doc.
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Post by puddleduck on Apr 8, 2007 11:52:14 GMT -5
Hi there, Marvelon is what I was prescribed way back at the age of 17 when I began having symptoms. It's a combined Pill, which means it contains oestrogen as well as progestogen. I tried it for six months and had awful mood swings and felt nauseous, so eventually stopped them altogether. A few years back when it was assumed I had PCOS, I was put on Brevinor (also a combined Pill, and did not feel well on that either) so it was changed to Dianette. I was fine on that for about a year, but then decided being on something containing oestrogen for a condition which is supposedly due to too much oestrogen was a bad idea...so I stopped and tried Agnus Castus instead. Have you been offered the Mini-Pill (progestogen only) or Mirena coil? It is believed that progestogens alone shrink endo lesions. Hope this helps. Puddleduck
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Post by ouchy on Apr 8, 2007 12:41:59 GMT -5
If endo was always caused by estrogen overgrowth, then no one w/ endo would have low estrogen...Surprise, I have endo, and I have low estrogen.
You have to realize about estrogen receptor binding as well. The estrogen from the pill competes for estrogen receptor binding, which actually can lead to lower overall estrogen.
Also, many women on POP's (progestin only pills/mini-pills) experience breakthrough bleeding and wind up having to take a supplemental oestrogen tablet to compensate. But then again, TONS of us here have had combined pills and have had breakthrough.
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Post by puddleduck on Apr 8, 2007 15:29:32 GMT -5
Hi Ouchy,
Interesting to read about your low oestrogen level. Did you have this measured via blood tests or saliva? Apparently there are oestrogen receptors in all body cells, so perhaps the level obtained depends upon where they are obtained from. Some hormones in the body are excreted in the red blood cells as waste, so are not measurable. But perhaps there are other ways of measuring them.
It seems that far more is known about oestrogen that progesterone. Apparently the reason for this is that almost all trials on progesterone have been done in connection with contraceptives, and not how it relates to the disease process or normal functioning of the pelvic organs.
xx
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Post by ouchy on Apr 8, 2007 17:46:48 GMT -5
Hi, puddle. By blood. It was part of a hormone work up, plus I wasn't ovulating normally, which with the messed up LH/FSH (also tested by blood), it went in combination.
Here is a great .ppt presentation from a professor at calstate that explains estrogen receptor binding and competition.http://www.calstatela.edu/faculty/mchen/endocrine_disrupting_compounds.ppt Basically, what is says is that "Compounds may act as either estrogens or anti-estrogens depending on the cellular environment. Certain hydroxylated PCBs are able to bind the estrogen receptor and activate gene transcription at high concentrations.
However, these PCB metabolites are weak agonists at appropriate concentrations, and they may have the potential to interfere by competing with endogenous estrogens for binding sites, binding but not activating the estrogen receptor (thereby acting as an anti-estrogen)."
Obviously, PCB's are not birth control pills, but the binding works the same way, or so we learned in class and what my obgyn explained to me. In general, as long as the estrogen in the pill proscribed is not too high, then it will most likely work as an anti-estrogen.
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Post by irishmuse on Apr 26, 2007 7:49:46 GMT -5
I was on Marvalon when I was younger. It stopped working after about a year.
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