jaye
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Post by jaye on Oct 2, 2012 16:04:13 GMT -5
Loveshoes, I really think your diet is fine, I would be much more concerned about the Insulin, Thyroid or hormone levels. With what you eat and the amount your working out you should be dropping pounds regardless of any new fads in weight loss, or the endo diet or anything else. Working out should have caused you to at least start losing. One thing though is muscle weighs more than fat. If your doing such a great job working out, you may have traded in your fat for some muscle! AND that's a good thing!! My friend reminded me of that when I started walking. Also if you really want to see some change take some measurements. Arms, legs, thighs, belly, breast, chest, waist etc. and then you can really see the changes your body is making even without dropping weight. Please don't give up though! You are doing fine and I wish I could be as thorough as you! Omak - I get that you don't approve of my diet or dietary advice (and that's fine - you don't have to eat like me) but calling what I'm suggesting a "fad" diet instead of addressing the specifics is bullsh*t and says more about you than me. By the way, diet affects insulin. Loveshoes - I agree with Omak that you should take measurements. They matter more than weight in the long run.
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Post by Karen on Oct 2, 2012 18:16:02 GMT -5
In general, if what you're doing is working, then keep doing it. If it's not working, why stick with what you're doing? At the end of the day, the recommended guidelines are a generalization for the entire population - each person is very different and may have totally different requirements. A good thyroid panel is TSH, free T3, and free T4 along with thyroid antibodies. However, unless you have typical symptoms of hypothyroidism - irregular cycles, swollen thyroid gland, unexplained weight gain, sluggishness, low body temps, always cold, etc., doctors will likely only order TSH and possibly order other tests only if TSH is off. In terms of insulin levels impacting hormone production, there's a TON of research & books out there. As an example, women with PCOS in particular are encouraged to go on an insulin-resistant diet, as are women with a short luteal phase, because insulin/blood sugar can directly impact our sex hormones. Look up insulin resistant diet or similar phrases. Essentially pair fat with protein with carbs at every meal in a certain balance. That can go a long way at addressing underlying hormonal imbalances. That's why you'll hear of some women trying the endo diet or similar for fertility - and they wind up preggers as a result. All in all, our food choices and pairings of foods can have a huge impact on how our bodies work. Here are a few of the first things that came up. www.womentowomen.com/insulinresistance/default.aspxwww.amazon.com/Insulin-Resistance-Diet-Revised-Updated-Fat-Making-Machine/dp/0071499849There are tons more sources. I think the book, "It Starts With Food" explains it incredibly well and also outlines a 30 day program staying true to that.
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Post by loveshoes on Oct 2, 2012 19:56:00 GMT -5
Thanks so much Karen! Thanks as well to everyone who replied, I have learned alot just researching stuff today online. Like sugar snap peas and carrots, high in sugar...ugh....seems like cardboard is the only ok thing to eat! LOL!
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Post by loveshoes on Oct 2, 2012 20:09:12 GMT -5
I'm super excited, going to find these! I did a ton of research online today about insulin resistance but I already feel way limited with the endo diet, this takes away sugar snap peas,carrots both said to be higher in sugar. I just made some hard boiled eggs to take to work for snack....need to figure out more options. thanks again!
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Post by hellsbells on Oct 3, 2012 5:12:38 GMT -5
Hey loveshoes - have a gander and glycaemic load versus glycaemic index. Yes, carrots may be higheer on the GI index but you would have to eat an awful lot of them to have a really negative affect, so don't think you have to cut out carrots or peas.
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Post by loveshoes on Oct 3, 2012 7:48:46 GMT -5
Hey loveshoes - have a gander and glycaemic load versus glycaemic index. Yes, carrots may be higheer on the GI index but you would have to eat an awful lot of them to have a really negative affect, so don't think you have to cut out carrots or peas. Thanks! Best news I've heard today! LOL! I can't give up my sugar snap peas, I love them so much! I don't eat them daily, maybe 2x per week with some hummus.
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Post by hellsbells on Oct 3, 2012 13:07:45 GMT -5
Just don't eat loads and have them with protein
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Post by pcsgal on Oct 4, 2012 20:35:30 GMT -5
Hi. I have gained about 25 lbs each time I have been on the pill. I went off to TTC and lost 35 lbs. Went back on for endo and back on came the weight. While off the pill, I stayed within 2lbs for about 3 years. When going back on, gained 10 lbs in the first month or two. Also prior to the weight loss, I had two laparotomies and two laparoscopies so I am wondering if the endo itself can change your hormones so much that you can't lose weight? I feel like I can't go off of the pill so I feel trapped. Help!
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Post by JC on Oct 5, 2012 10:00:50 GMT -5
Loveshoes, you are right in saying that the foods you are eating are perfectly healthy. I think the concern I am getting after reading all the posts is that your diet isn't balanced. I also agree that maybe you do need more protein. Constant spikes and lows of insulin levels because you're eating few meals or eating carbs will cause everything you eat to be stored as fat. The insulin resistance diet preaches balancing carbs with protein to allow for better stabilization of your insulin levels. I have never been a fan of counting calories. It really ignores some very fundamental nutritional needs of our body. Rather than focus on "how much" you're eating, focus on "how balanced" your meals are. You are already avoiding all of the bad stuff and you have a great arsenal of healthy foods. Just try to create more of a balance between carbs and protein. I also agree with a previous post of taking body measurements rather than weighing yourself. Muscle is much more dense than fat so if you burn fat and build muscle then your weight can stay the same and maybe even increase but your body will slim down. Here is our thread on the insulin resistance diet if you're up for some more reading endo-resolved.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=diet&action=display&thread=440
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Post by loveshoes on Oct 5, 2012 15:11:51 GMT -5
Thanks Jenaya!
I think I am working out too much. I sat down and wrote down everything I eat in a typical day and the calories and then realized with working out, I'm eating below what I need, I think my system is going into starvation mode even though i feel like I'm eating alot of foods. I am going to make some changes, not work out as hard, I'm going to change it a little and see how things go. I feel like I'm going to be adding some extra dairy items that aren't really part of the endo diet but I can't make myself totally nuts. I bought some low fat string cheese, and also boiled some eggs for snacks. I'm also going to put chicken on my salads now for the extra protein. Hopefully that's a good start.
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Post by hellsbells on Oct 6, 2012 5:42:28 GMT -5
Just a little tip on cheese - I don't eat a lot of it really but I like to buy strong mature cheese that packs a punch, because you then use less of it. String cheese tends to be more processed to give it that texture and stringiness.
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Post by loveshoes on Oct 6, 2012 14:08:32 GMT -5
I also have a brick of colby jack that I have been munching on. I know it's not going to be a daily thing with the cheese. I have been reading alot that cottage cheese is a good snack as well and I do love it as well. I think it's going to be a give/take thing. I know the endo diet frowns on dairy but at this point, I have to make some decisions to add in some of these other options, I'd rather stay true to the wheat/gluten free and make provisions for some dairy.
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Post by loveshoes on Oct 9, 2012 20:17:11 GMT -5
Hi!
So I saw my regular PC today for my annual physical. I talked to her in detail about my working out schedule, my diet, and lack of any weight loss. She said based on my BMI #, I'm 1.5 points from being classified as being underweight even thought the # on the scale is the heaviest I have ever been. I just don't get it. I stood up and showed her my belly that looks like I"m 4 months along, no joke. I have to say, even she was a little taken back by the size of it but she said it's mostly genetics ( my mom has it and my 2 aunts and grandma had it too ). She said even if I did alot of core working out, it will never go away, it would strengthen the muscles but I'd always have it. I'm a little discouraged. She's convinced it's all muscle and based on my diet/work out schedule it can't be fat so I don't know. I did convince her to run the vitamin d panel. I asked to check my vitamin b but she said the regular blood work would show something and if that's off, we could check the b12 specifically. I also requested a hormone panel but she wouldn't do it, she said I should talk to my gyno so that was a hit and a miss. My blood pressure was a little higher about a year ago and I read it could be due to the pill but it was back down to what's normal for me so I was pleased about that. She also humored me and did a thyroid panel as well so we'll see. I swear so much has to be constipation and water weight...you'd think with all the freaking fiber I'm eating, I'd be a pooping champ but not so much. Is there a test to check for how much water you are retaining?
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Post by hellsbells on Oct 10, 2012 7:16:48 GMT -5
I'm not sure about any tests to show fluid retention, but there are signs. If you press your thumb into your skin hard for a good few seconds and it takes a while to pop back up, it could be a sign. You may be eating a alot of fibre, but is it the right kind of fibre? It's the insoluble stuff you need to bulk your stools up, and if you are eating more fibre you MUST drink adequate fluid to help it through. Do you keep a food diary? Try it for a week or so, and read the food labels very carefully, there may be some hidden nasties in what you're eating. How much are you eating in the way of products that are normally wheat based but you eat the gluten free varieties?
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Post by loveshoes on Oct 10, 2012 9:18:07 GMT -5
I have a feeling it might be cheese. I was trying to add a little more protein like you all suggested but the doctor said cheese causes constipation. Well, all of the fiber I am consuming is very good, ground up flax seed in my oatmeal, salad is 50% spinach and 50% field greens. Sugar snap peas ( not often ), kale salad, so it’s all the good kind. I drink a lot of water but I guess I need more. I really don’t think I’m retaining water either. With the kale salad I’m making my own dressing per sey with a squeezed ½ lemon and some extra virgin olive oil so all healthy stuff.
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