monira
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Post by monira on Jul 12, 2007 17:37:19 GMT -5
I knew that fresh veg’s are always more nutritious than the frozen one. But, now-a-days, I am worried about toxic exposure from food. I hard that frozen veg’s are less toxic than fresh as producers use more toxic chemical to keep veg’s fresh! And, for frozen, they just picked and frozen the veg’s right away. Anybody has any ideas
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Post by ouchy on Jul 12, 2007 18:25:56 GMT -5
I think most of the frozen ones are the same pesticide ones you get in the store, only frozen.
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Post by camille on Jul 13, 2007 8:54:09 GMT -5
The following paragraph is taken from this website: www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=188#answer"Is fresh always better than frozen? If we had to give a one word answer to this question, our one word answer would be: no. Fresh is not always better than frozen. The reason is very simple: "better" depends on quality. Suppose, for example, we chose the highest quality food source as an example: an organically grown food, grown during its natural season, and in its native habitat. In this case, would the fresh version always be better than the frozen one? Yes! Freezing would decrease the overall nutrient content of the food (although in some cases, only slightly). So fresh in this circumstance would always be better. But imagine a second example, where the fresh food - let's say, fresh broccoli, was grown out-of-season, in a non-hospitable habitat, with the use of artificial fertilizers and pesticides. And to continue on in our example, let's say the frozen broccoli was grown organically in its native habitat in season. In this case, the frozen broccoli would make a better choice than the fresh broccoli because of its higher quality. Research studies have shown organically grown broccoli to have higher nutrient content than non-organically grown broccoli, and to have virtually no pesticide residues (in comparison to potentially health-compromising levels in the non-organically grown version). Particularly when foods are not in season, or when organically-grown products are not available, frozen organic alternatives make good sense. When fresh, organically grown foods are available, however, they always top the nourishment chart! "
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Post by ouchy on Jul 13, 2007 9:25:20 GMT -5
I've never seen organic frozen food.
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Post by monira on Jul 13, 2007 9:31:10 GMT -5
So, it looks like organic is the only solution. the concern is whetever organic we find in local grosary like cubfood or rainbow whether those are really grown organically as I heard some people have concern. Moreover it is expensive if I want to use everyday as I cook a lot veg, meat, fish everyday. I love gardening. I don't have any back yeard where I could grow some in the summer. I sometime think I could be a farmer as I love growing...
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Post by ouchy on Jul 13, 2007 9:34:11 GMT -5
I've been an organic co-op member for a couple months now. The food is SOOOO fresh, and every now and then I'll find a little catterpillar or cute bug in some of the veggies! It's SO nice to see live animals in the veggies! If the buggies want to eat the veggies, so do I! Plus, we've saved a heap in money, since it only costs $13.00 a week. Saves grocery shopping time, too, bc all of the veggies are in one huge box that I just pick up each week. The taste is unbelievable! The farmers must be using some good fertilizer. LOL Here is what was in the box I picked up yesterday. Avocados Green Beans Bok Choy Chard Cucumbers Fennel Lettuce Mizuna Melon Parsley Radishes Zucchini
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Post by camille on Jul 13, 2007 9:46:55 GMT -5
both whole foods and trader joes have frozen organic fruits and vegetables - though the selection is not as interesting as the fresh stuff you get from organic farmers for certain!
Here in the midwest its great way to eat organic in the winter!
I especially love organic frozen cherries - I eat them frozen. Helps with cramps too!
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Post by monira on Jul 13, 2007 9:49:13 GMT -5
My goodness ouchy! u r real genious. I want to cry. Every week I spand 6o to 70 US $ on my grocery without fish or meat. And its not organic. I was looking for Co op in my area. But could not find one yet. Will your coop will available in the winter too? I really need to find a coop in my area soon. I am willing to pay the dubble of your weekly payment to get this oppertunity. I am a so looser now!
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Post by kb on Jul 13, 2007 10:26:32 GMT -5
This kind of thing just isnt available where i am. Im in a regional are, its a big major regional area, but regional nonetheless, so this stuff isnt really available.
Buying organic produce isnt standardly available in fresh, never seen it in frozen food, only tinned produce.
The stuff i buy from a fruit shop, not a supermarket is generally in season, which i think helps in quality and cost, so that way i dont spend too much. Its the best i can do.
My neighbour is a keen gardener, so we sometimes get stuff from him, tastes fantastic his stuff, he gives us stuff coz my hubby gives him our grass clippings, is a good deal.
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Post by ouchy on Jul 13, 2007 11:57:49 GMT -5
My goodness ouchy! u r real genious. I want to cry. Every week I spand 6o to 70 US $ on my grocery without fish or meat. And its not organic. I was looking for Co op in my area. But could not find one yet. Will your coop will available in the winter too? I really need to find a coop in my area soon. I am willing to pay the dubble of your weekly payment to get this oppertunity. I am a so looser now! If you live in the U.S., you can search for a co-op in your area--check out this thread. cjlevett.proboards33.com/index.cgi?board=diet&action=display&thread=1178842764Due to climate, my co-op will have fresh veggies and fruit all year. Where my mom lives, they also have a lot of cows, so a co-op near her has packages of organic veggies AND meat, including fresh fish! I wish we had something like that here! I actually didn't know anything like this was available in my area, since I live so close to the city!
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Post by mel26 on Jul 22, 2007 3:48:54 GMT -5
Saw this and thought I'd put in my two cents! I have heard frozen veggies can be full of bacteria. Also, with reg. fresh produce, I'd cut up my veggies/fruit and soak them in water, to kind of leech out some of the leftover pesticides. I'm from Ontario, known for its "quality" produce, although organic isn't promoted, and there are plenty of markets (pick your own strawberries, apples, tomatoes...) but w/o a car they are hard to benefit from. (seems defeatist, make organic markets you must drive to!?)
The one co-op I know of around here costs $30-some odd/mo for membership, and you must log work hours in the shop AND u only get a discount, so even if u pay the 30.00, u still have to buy stuff and find time to work there... But I still say keep looking into it, and try planter gardening. You'd be surprised at what u can get growing!! (like cherry tomatoes, sometimes hard on the tum, but TASTY!)
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Post by monira on Jul 24, 2007 17:11:02 GMT -5
I lived in Ontario (Toronto area) for two years. I also found soem co op where you'll pay membership fee and then only get some discount while shopping. That's not what I am looking for. I would like to grow some vegg myself, only the problem is that I don't have any back yeard......
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Post by ouchy on Jul 24, 2007 17:29:52 GMT -5
Could you grow patio veggies? Like tomatoes in a big pot?
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Post by monira on Jul 26, 2007 11:52:13 GMT -5
Actually I tried Tomato last year in my patio but it didn't come out good. I used miracle grow. May be the way was wrong, also I don't have much sun light in my patio. But, I grow green peeper, herbs -peppermint, roasmerry, thyme this summer. Growing patio vegg I guess is not easy for me...
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Post by ouchy on Jul 26, 2007 12:32:34 GMT -5
Yah. Our tomatoes didn't come out well, either. We had too small of a pot so got really small tomatoes! Next time I'm going to try a HUGE clay pot and fertilize it with bullsh*t! No joke! LOL!
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