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Post by Heather on Sept 1, 2010 2:50:10 GMT -5
I'm having a hard time finding a supplement that will help with endo. I was taking Centrum, then I finally read the label and it has BHT! I stopped taking it, and am taking One-A-Day Women's Multi in the interim until I find something more complete. I have Susan Lark's book "Fibroid Tumors & Endometriosis Self Help Book", and these are the values she recommends:
Beta carotene (provitamin A) 5000-50000 iu B1 (thiamine) 25-100 mg B2 (riboflavin) 25-100 mg B3 (niacinamide) 25-100 mg B5 (pantothenic acid) 100-250 mg B6 (pyridoxine) 50 mg twice daily B12 (cyanocobalamin) 100 mcg Folic acid 800 mcg Biotin 300 mcg Choline 50 mcg Inositol 50 mcg PABA 50 mcg Vitamin C (as mineral ascorbates) 1000-5000 mg Vitamin D 400 iu Bioflavonoids 800-2000 mg Rutin 200-400 mg Vitamin E (d-alpha tocopherol acetate) 800-2000 iu Calcium 800-1200 mg Magnesium 400-600 mg Potassium 100-300 mg Iron 15-30 mg Zinc 15 mg Iodine 150-225 mcg Manganese 10-20 mg Copper 2 mg Selenium 50-200 mcg Chromium 100-400 mcg Bromelain 1000 mg Papain 200-400 mg
I saw the doctor today, and showed her the list in the book. She said it looked fine except for the Vit. D, she recommends 800-1000 iu of that daily. So my question is, has anyone been able to find a multi that has these values? I'm getting such a headache sifting through them all and reading labels. Thanks!
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Post by hellsbells on Sept 1, 2010 14:51:15 GMT -5
Most mult-vits have the smallest dose that couold be classed as the RDA. As far as I've seen the only way to get larger amounts is with individual vitamins. That's quite a comprehensive list of not just vitamins, you'll struggle to get them all in one pill in those doses. Let me know if you find one!
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Post by JC on Sept 1, 2010 16:59:49 GMT -5
Hello! I think my reply is not going to help you but I do wanna mention some things. The most ideal way to get these vitamins and minerals is through your diet. There are a number of reasons for this. First, nature has a really good way of combining certain nutrients together to optimize absorption. For example, for calcium to absorb, you need vitamin D. For iron to fully absorb, you need vitamin C. Food just naturally does this for you! You don't to spend so much time trying to figure out what needs what to work and then spend a bunch of money on 8 different pills. Another reason is that these vitamins contain fillers. Fillers are what make the vitamin take their shape. Who knows what the heck are in these "fillers" but if you ask me, nature didn't put fillers into a banana or spinach! I would really recommend trying to eat things that are rich in these nutrients first. Taking supplements are really supposed to be used as a last resort. Like if you absolutely hate everything that has potassium in it, then taking a supplement might be better.
On a side note, if I were to think of a vitamin that would be good for women in general, I've heard that pre-natal vitamins are really good for us. Anyone have any input for this?
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Post by JC on Sept 1, 2010 17:02:20 GMT -5
BTW bromelain is in pineapples! YUM! AND you get all the other good stuff like Vitamin A, vitamin C, a little bit of B vitamins, maganese, fiber, potassium, and even some omega 3 fatty acids!
All that stuff in one fruit! Or even it's juice!
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Post by Karen on Sept 1, 2010 17:15:55 GMT -5
I completely agree, Jenaya! Diet should absolutely be the number one place to start. That being said, though, there are certainly some vitamins and minerals that you still may not get, so a multi-vitamin and a few others might be beneficial. What those are can depend on your symptoms and your body's needs, there's no easy way to figure it all out.
I tend to rely more on whole food supplements. They minimally process foods to form supplements, so you're getting the best part of the plant. I've heard they are often better absorbed in the body than vitamins and minerals that are created in a lab, though perhaps that's up for debate. I also believe in splurging for high quality supplements rather than the ones that are least expensive. I buy pharmaceutical grade supplements through two of my health care providers.
And although it may be tempting to go out and purchase a whole slew of pills, you might want to consider staggering them by a few weeks here and there. That way, if one or two aren't agreeing with you for some reason, you might have a better chance of pinpointing it.
Oh, and the bromelain in pineapples is mostly concentrated in the parts that we typically don't eat, though the edible parts are certainly packed full of other things!
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Post by Heather on Sept 1, 2010 17:35:52 GMT -5
I have certainly changed my diet a lot, I've been following the diet in Ms. Levett's book since December, but I have no idea how much of each vitamin/mineral is in each meal, and I really don't have the time to calculate it. I wanted to find a multi so I can make sure I'm covering all my bases, really.
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Post by Karen on Sept 1, 2010 17:54:09 GMT -5
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Post by Heather on Sept 2, 2010 7:27:04 GMT -5
Thanks Karen! I will certainly look into Solaray!
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Post by hellsbells on Sept 6, 2010 13:05:48 GMT -5
Hey, if you're following a really good diet packed with fruit, veg and everything else in the right proportion...chances are you don't need a supplement!
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Post by JC on Sept 6, 2010 14:52:18 GMT -5
I have actually considered taking a pre-natal. I try my best to eat right and have a balanced diet. Maybe I can try for a month and see if I feel different? Hmmmmm still considering....
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Post by omaklackey on Sept 6, 2010 15:05:54 GMT -5
I know I feel better when i take a multi for women. The one I take is pretty good, has the larger dose of calcium, D3 for women. Its just the brand they carry at safeway but its liquid capsule which as I understand it is absorbed better by the body?
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Post by hellsbells on Sept 6, 2010 15:06:01 GMT -5
I think sometimes with certain conditions/diseases we can benefit from a little extra dose of one or two things, but they really are no substitute for a balanced diet. Which in fairness these days is often hard to do!
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Post by JC on Sept 6, 2010 15:11:26 GMT -5
Oh, and the bromelain in pineapples is mostly concentrated in the parts that we typically don't eat, though the edible parts are certainly packed full of other things! OH MAN! What a bummer!!! Thanks for the correction.
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Post by hellsbells on Sept 7, 2010 14:33:24 GMT -5
Aryou sure I thought it was the bromelain in fresh pineapple that would stop jelly (jello) setting? Kiwi does the same thing.
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Post by Karen on Sept 7, 2010 17:18:35 GMT -5
Looks like there's some in the fruit, but the majority of it is in the parts we don't eat... Still, I don't think eating pineapple is a bad thing!!
"Pineapples contain an enzyme called bromelain, which breaks down proteins and aids in digestion. It is often used as a meat tenderizer, and in the leather industry to soften the hard animal hides. Bromelain is primarily found in the stem of the pineapple, but traces can also be found in the fruit and leaves."
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