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Post by ldancer on Oct 13, 2008 16:51:27 GMT -5
I've been doing an anti-inflammatory/anti-estrogen diet for 2 weeks now (no wheat, dairy, sugar, soy). I already avoid red meat. But, I really like eggs as a fast source of protein. I've read that women with endo should avoid them. Is this true? Or are organic eggs OK?
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Post by rach on Oct 14, 2008 20:19:12 GMT -5
Ok this is kind of related, and a good time to bring it up- how on earth do you get enough protien on this diet??? My naturopath has recently told me that i need to eat more protein, and calcium as well, and considering i already eat nuts seeds and LSA the only other options i can really think of are soy and diary- both of which are suposed to be no nos. (Just to clarify i'm vegetarian so please dont suggest meat!)
How does this work? I also use eggs for protien, although only in things (ie in pancakes/burger patties etc as i don't like the actual taste of eggs). I'm confused too ldancer!
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Post by JackMcFarland on Oct 15, 2008 8:57:01 GMT -5
I'm not a big fan of eggs, however... I think at this point is your own personal choice. Remember, these are foods you *should* saty away from, not foods you *have* to stay away from. With that said, if eggs do not bother you pain wise, and you need a good healthy source of protein, I don't see an issue. I take these diets and tweak them, as I feel with endo certain diary products are important - milk as a source of calcium, etc. I eat gluten free, NO SOY, fish, meat, poultry, etc. I stay away from all processed foods and none organic sugar.
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Post by ldancer on Oct 15, 2008 17:10:40 GMT -5
Hmmm. OK. Well, what I'd read was that eggs were to be avoided because of the animal estrogens. But, yes - protein is important, too. It's easier for me to eat organic eggs than to eat organic chicken, because the latter is pricey, so I don't buy it all that often. I do occasionally eat regular ol' restaurant chicken...bad, I know! I'm working on that. I live in Brooklyn, where it's easy to get good quality food.
I think I generally do well on a no-wheat, no soy, no cow's-milk diet. I feel better and have easier periods; I also look better. I have not noticed any increase in pain immediately after eating specific foods. However, when I was going to an Ayurvedic physician, she told me to avoid ginger, saffron, walnuts, apricots, and peaches. This advice was specific to me and my constitution - Pitta - and shouldn't be taken as advice for everyone. She said that these foods would make me bleed more. Now, I used to cook with tons of ginger, and I love Pakistani food, which is full of both ginger and saffron (I live in a Pakistani/Bangladeshi neighborhood). So I tried a little experiment - I waited until I had my period, and then I ate some food from our favorite place. It was immediate and dramatic - I was gushing blood (sorry, but I must be honest here). So now I avoid those things. Alcohol also increases bleeding, according to the Ayurvedic doc and to my grandmother, may she rest in peace, who was a farm girl from the Ukraine-Poland border. And she was right!
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Post by bogusjourney on Jan 22, 2010 21:19:16 GMT -5
Hi, I'm new here but have been following the endo diet recommendations for about six months. One thing that occurred to me recently: I know that eggs are supposed to be inflammatory, but is that the whole egg or just the yolk? Is there a scientific explanation for that, like is there a certain substance in the yolk that promotes bad prostaglandins, but not in the white? I'm a low carb dieter, so being able to eat egg whites would really help me out. Thanks for any advice!
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Post by Karen on Jan 22, 2010 22:57:00 GMT -5
Hmm, I did a quick search and didn't come up with much other than something about animal proteins can cause inflammation... Don't know if that answers your question or not!
I think some of the comments above are valid, though. Give eggs a try, and if they cause more pain for you, well, then you know! But if they don't seem to have any effect on you, consider buying organic.
How's the diet working for you, by the way?
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Post by bogusjourney on Jan 23, 2010 1:03:42 GMT -5
Hi! Thanks for your help Karen. You're right, it's always a personal trial and error with these things. The diet has been working very well for me so far -- I'm not pain free, but I feel better and have fewer really bad days. I've also been diagnosed with interstitial cystitis, and I ended up combining the IC diet with the endo diet to come up with something that works for me. I have been eating eggs, but recently re-read one of the Zone books that reminded me that the yolks could be bad for inflammation. Thanks again!
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Post by Karen on Jan 23, 2010 7:31:36 GMT -5
Woo hoo! That's great! The only differences I know between egg whites and the yolks is 1. color (duh!) and 2. the whites don't have cholesterol. So the eggs haven't caused any problems? Feel free to post your successes with the diet here: cjlevett.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=diet&action=display&thread=417 There are always newbies looking for advice on the diet!!
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Post by liats80 on Feb 10, 2010 12:02:07 GMT -5
I've been following the endo diet for 8 months now. Feeling much better, not pain free, but pain is restricted to period days. Nevertheless I'm still quite bloated and uncomfortable - I have candida in the colon which I'm fighting really hard for 5 months now... Anyways, I was also wondering about the eggs. I especially miss it in baking (i get recipes from www.elanaspantry.com/ which is a great blog with mostly endo-friendly recipes, but they do contain egg). I also miss them as a low-carb easy breakfast. When I started the endo diet I lost 3 kilos which I was extremely happy about. But after finding all the foods I can have (legumes, thini, nuts etc.) I gained 5!! So annoying. So now I looked into the zone diet, which seems quite good. Only you have to have protein for breakfast and that makes it difficult. I tried having tuna and chicken for breakfast but I don't enjoy it. I had some almond-flexseed porridge which is ok but tehse are considered fat in the zone diet rather than protein. Bogusjourny - I would love to hear how you combine the endo diet with the zone diet. Especially if you have any breakfasts ideas. I just started going to the gym again yesterday. Hopefully that and the endo-zone diet will help me loss the weight again.
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Post by Lizz on Feb 25, 2010 11:00:17 GMT -5
Hello there, very interesting all these! I never though I could make any kind of diet before reading this site (for which I'm very grateful by the way).
I've been doing the endo diet I found here, you know, the no diary, no red met, no eggs, no wheat, specially no soy diet, which has been very hard since I love pastry! I was doing it for a month and a half. Even though I was not feeling the acute pain, I was still feeling some. So, because of that I stopped the diet thinking it was not good enough and I gave in to wheat and nice sweet desserts and freshly baked bread again! and guess what, I'm now since one week ago with a pain that is kicking the c... out of me!!!!.
So, I do not know if the eggs or the wheat ('casue most of the desserts are made also with eggs) but certainly are not good for endo patients! and I could not get the difference until I started to feel the horrible pain again. I understand that all the bodies are different, but in my case I'm not going to give it another try to see what works and what doesn't... it is too painful, so I will stick to the diet, perhaps if I keep it going for more than a month it will get better and better.
Now, I'm very sad because my stupidity, I feel miserable with this pain, every time that happens it's more difficult to bear with it.
With all my heart I suggest you to stick to the diet, let's find another sources of protein, perhaps beans... I don't know maybe cornflakes for breakfast, I truly believe is the best thing to do.
SAY NO TO THE EGGSSS LADIES!!!!
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Post by Tara on Feb 25, 2010 13:00:49 GMT -5
Has anyone had any experience with organic eggs. We have been buying those instead of the normal kind. My thinking is that it would be okay to have organic eggs, just like it is okay to have organic meat.....Any thoughts
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Post by monira on Feb 25, 2010 16:03:09 GMT -5
I am using organic eggs almost last 1 + 1/2 year now. I am a egg lover...hard to quiet. But, still would say when I avoided eggs totally, I was feeling much better. Then, I've added org eggs. I can use it once in a while, not always. If I use it frequently, I don't feel good pain wise. I think, you can use a little and see how your body respond to it...
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Post by jem on Mar 4, 2011 9:22:17 GMT -5
So.. it is the animal protein that is the problem?
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Post by Karen on Mar 4, 2011 18:25:58 GMT -5
I still haven't figured out what the problem is, but animal protein seems to make sense. Now that I've excluded so many bad foods from my diet I notice how out of it I feel after I eat eggs. I only allow them after a hangover these days, and those days are few and far between!
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Post by lkanaday on Apr 24, 2011 19:00:35 GMT -5
I see the book says no eggs. What about raw eggs? They are farm eggs, not grocerie store eggs. I put two in my smoothie in the morning.
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