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fasting
Feb 15, 2007 23:09:07 GMT -5
Post by dd on Feb 15, 2007 23:09:07 GMT -5
Has anyone heard much about fasting with regard to getting rid of Endo and or Cysts? I have been reading a little on the subject and have a friend of a friend who apparently kicked a case of chronic arthritis through fasting and then radically changing to a healthier diet. His two brothers still have it - to a debilitating degree but he is free and has been for years. It all sounds encouraging but at the same time I don't want to get my hopes up if Cysts are a different story - I seem to be able to manage the Endo (at least to some degree) via something along the lines of the Endo diet in the cook book on this website. However I have a fibroid on my uterus wall and two endometrioma inside one of my ovaries. I have already had one endometrioma removed from each ovary. Wow. It is a lot to take sometimes. Anyway, if you know anything about fasting, please send it my way.
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fasting
Feb 16, 2007 0:51:28 GMT -5
Post by ouchy on Feb 16, 2007 0:51:28 GMT -5
Hi, dd. I've never heard of fasting for endometriosis or cysts. I can't see a biologic value in starving your body to try to cure a condition, even obesity. Just my opinion.
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fasting
Feb 16, 2007 16:54:12 GMT -5
Post by erzulie on Feb 16, 2007 16:54:12 GMT -5
I know that diet can really improve endometriosis and fibroids, in some cases dramatically. I have never heard of fasting helping though. I think fasting might actually hurt endometriosis, because research has shown that most women with endometriosis have too much insulin in their bodies, which makes the problem worse by producing more bad prostaglandins and by making seizures in the fallopian tubes and GI tract worse. If I were you I would just switch to a healthier diet and skip the fasting.
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fasting
Feb 16, 2007 19:16:42 GMT -5
Post by kb on Feb 16, 2007 19:16:42 GMT -5
Really? Id never heard that before, all my research, and ive missed that, will have to look into that one. Makes sense though, ive had a bit of a problem for years where my sugars go too low if im not careful, and i get the shakes, like with a hypo, yet im not diabetic. Does anyone else have that problem? id never linked it to anything. I have read though that sugar peaks can make your PMS symptoms worse, and it is best to keep sugars at a stable level to reduce those symptoms (sorry dont remember where i read that, in a book a while ago). If anyone has some links on the insulin thing id be really interested
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fasting
Feb 16, 2007 22:29:52 GMT -5
Post by erzulie on Feb 16, 2007 22:29:52 GMT -5
I don't have a link. I read it in this book: Endometriosis: The Complete Reference for Taking Charge of Your Health by Mary Lou Ballweg and the Endometriosis Association. It made sense to me too because I've always had problems if my blood sugar gets lower. I can't skip a meal or even delay a meal. I completely freak out if I can't eat a full meal on time. I just get all weird and light-headed.
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fasting
Feb 16, 2007 23:24:36 GMT -5
Post by ouchy on Feb 16, 2007 23:24:36 GMT -5
I have a thread started re: Insulin Resistance Diet. I never realized that it may be linked not only to PCOS but also to endo. My sugar apparently swings from too high to too low. I know the diet last month gave me no blood clots and 0 pain--not even one cramp. I don't know if it is from lowering the sugar or if the diet is just so close to the "Endo Diet" that it did the trick. Probably both.
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fasting
Feb 17, 2007 7:08:50 GMT -5
Post by cherry on Feb 17, 2007 7:08:50 GMT -5
I have days where I won't eat until 4pm, but still stuff 3 meals worth in! I concur with the other opinions here, that sounds more damaging than anything. I'd only consider a fast as part of detox, and even then I don't think I'd do it. In essence, your body has a problem with healing and stuff, so why deprive it of the everyday nutrients that keep it in good working order, even if only for a day. Aargh talking bout fasting has made me so hungry! xx
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fasting
Feb 17, 2007 13:12:26 GMT -5
Post by jp on Feb 17, 2007 13:12:26 GMT -5
I have to say I disagree. If you know how to do a proper fast or detox it can be incredibly healing and beneficial to get the junk out of your body. It is also highly recommended to women with endo to do a juice fast or detox diet a few days before your period.
Since doing a major detox in November my symptoms have been minimal if not completely gone.
I am a big foodie who needs to eat every couple hours to keep blood sugar levels even. But the detox helped me see my dependence on food, and a green drink, a broth loaded with minerals, teas, large glasses of water with lemon are often enough.
I don't in anyway agree with water fasts, or "starving yourself. A fast should be gradual coming in and out, and should include tons of fresh organic veggie juices with some not so high sugared fruit juices. So many toxins, junk, and residual crap leaves your body and I think this benefits endo in a major way.
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fasting
Feb 17, 2007 13:28:35 GMT -5
Post by ouchy on Feb 17, 2007 13:28:35 GMT -5
It wasn't posed as fasting for a detox in the initial post; that's why we all replied as we did.
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fasting
Feb 18, 2007 23:00:14 GMT -5
Post by kb on Feb 18, 2007 23:00:14 GMT -5
It really is quite incredible the effect endo can have on your body isnt it, all these years i always just thought i had a bit of glucose intolerance, never had conected it, and never suspected it would be related to endo. But it all makes so much sense doesnt it.
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fasting
Feb 18, 2007 23:57:24 GMT -5
Post by dd on Feb 18, 2007 23:57:24 GMT -5
Hi all, Wow! Thank you for the host or replies. It's great. Sometimes I think some of my friends, as patient as most of them are, might get a little weary of all my endo information. It is nice to know there are so many people out there who have so much input/ideas/experience on this topic. As for the fasting, I think I will wait a little on it. The MD that uses fasting (whose book I am reading) has successfuly treated women with fibroids through fasting. The purpose is to detoxify the body and let the body begin to heal itself. His book has a lot of medical info explaining how fasting works and the best way to go about it - like one of you mentioned - easing into it and then easing out of it carefully with juices, vegetables and fruit. He also recommends having a doctor with experience with fasting supervise the fast. In any case, I am already a little on the thin side as a result of no wheat and no dairy for over a year. It's a little hard to eat on the fly with those restrictions so I am still learning to cook and take care of myself. If I am going to fast, better to wait until I actually have a little weight to lose. Thank you again for all your input. Has helped me to go with a little more caution on this one. I am encouraged by ouchy's post - no cramps after balancing sugars and following something similar to the endo diet.
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