hurtz
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Post by hurtz on Jun 10, 2009 20:49:08 GMT -5
I have a friend with endo and she said that we should avoid apples because they contain/promote estrogen. I have been doing research and can't find anything on the topic. Does anyone know about this?
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Post by Karen on Jun 10, 2009 21:33:49 GMT -5
Hmm, I haven't heard that. However, according to "Endometriosis - The Complete Reference for Taking Charge of Your Health" by Mary Lou Ballweg & the Endo Association (and what I consider to be the endo bible):
"Studies indicate that hormonally active chemicals such as dioxin and PCBs can have profound immunological and reproductive effects, including acting like hormones (estrogens & others) in our bodies. ... Most of the dioxin we encounter comes to us in our food. ... Suggestions gleaned from toxicologists for limiting our dietary exposure to these chemicals include the following: - Avoid contaminated fish - Eat lower on the food chain - Trim fat from meats and fish - Eat organically grown foods - Drink purified water - Avoid eating the twelve fruits and vegetables that carry the most pesticides (which are...) 1. Strawberries 2 (tie). Red & green peppers / Spinach 4. Cherries 5. Peaches 6. Cataloupe 7. Celery 8. APPLES 9. Apricots 10. Green beans 11. Grapes 12. Cucumbers
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Post by omaklackey on Jun 10, 2009 22:51:49 GMT -5
yes, but she also states in the book and it is backed up in backs it up in Endo nutrition that eating organic is a way to beat this. I live in the middle of a pear orchard and I gotta tell you I"m seriously considering going organic with all my produce. They spray the orchards constantly for bugs etc. The product is so bad the people spraying it are in full hazmat gear! Yucky!!
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Post by ouchy on Jun 10, 2009 22:55:55 GMT -5
^...then again, they had endometriosis around before pesticides were even invented.
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Post by Karen on Jun 11, 2009 6:32:52 GMT -5
I'm inclined to believe the pesticides/other dioxins are contributing factors for endo, but not the only factors. I suspect that eating more organic can't hurt, though.
I'm making more of an effort to buy organic fruits/veggies when I can, and am buying more and more hormone/antibiotic free meats. I don't know if it'll really make all that much difference, but I'm certainly willing to try.
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Post by KSA on Jun 11, 2009 7:48:22 GMT -5
I try very hard to eat only organic and I have to say I see a difference in my body when I do. Olsenka I have read that same book it is a great source of informaton! I buy alot of produce and eggs off local farmers and even get my goats milk straight from a goat. It changed my hair, nails and skin when I started eating fresh and organic. As for Endo my pain is constant however if I eat well I do see a change in my Bmovements and that is a blessing even if I still have pain. I encourage anyone who is interested to try organic summer time is the best time to start lots of farmers markets are open and you can grow your own garden too then you know exactly what you are eating:)
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Post by ouchy on Jun 11, 2009 9:56:26 GMT -5
I'm a member of an organic co-op. The food is delicious! And wayyy cheaper than buying even the pesticide stuff at the store!
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Post by Karen on Jun 11, 2009 10:26:39 GMT -5
Nice! We have a fab farmer's market here in town - I try to hit it every Saturday morning. One of the biggest in the midwest! I was going to sign up for a farmer's share, where they give you a box of food directly from the farm once a week and deliver it to your work, but unfortunately, the deadline to sign up was the week that we found out about the pay cuts at work... So I won't get as much new stuff to try, but it's worth a shot. I figure more organics, less processed foods are the way to go!
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Post by omaklackey on Jun 11, 2009 11:05:53 GMT -5
I picked up a book with the complete reference one called: "Endometriosis: A key to healing through nutrition" by Dian Mills. Its really good although like ouchy I take some of the talk of pesticides with a heaping of common sense. (I grew up on all Organic foods and I have BAD endo) But the rest of the talk of change in diet and stuff is really great! I have been incresing my Veggie intake and at least I'm loosing weight even if it not really helping the endo pain. YEAH for loosing weight anyways right!! LOL
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miriam
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Post by miriam on Jun 11, 2009 11:31:16 GMT -5
Hi everyone, I started doing an endo type diet about 3 months ago, although my diet was already pretty varied and healthy with lots of veg. The things I cut out or cut down on were soy products, wheat and gluten, red meats and other non-organic meats and fish, cow's dairy and refined sugars. I was not mega mega strict but I did really up my intake of mostly organic veg and brown organic rice prodcuts, to the point that my digestive habits did change quite noticeably! ;o) Now, having thought it may take a very long time, I am prego (so far so good though its early days). I believe this diet was a contributing factor although my (post period) pain did still rear its head each month. My instinct is that the key things which contributed to the conception and better health was cutting out red meat and wheat and dairy, eating more veg and fruit and taking vitamin supps including folic acid. My feeling is that any inflammation I had was reduced enough to allow conception to be more likely and to take place. Re. the above post omaklackey, I went to see Diane Shepperson Mills a few years ago in London. Her prices were pretty reasonable. Her book I thought was very informative and worth reading, however I wanted to meet her as there was so much technical info in it that I needed to hear it rather than read it! She was helpful and gave plently of information, though I felt it was ot particularly personalised to me more just to endo sufferes in general, and so I found her to be less inspiting than her book, whcich contained many personal stories about the impact that diet can have for people with endo. One thing she did recommend for me however was Pau D'arco tea, which can help to reduce inflammation (I think). I never did get it though as you need to search around a bit for it - might be better to go and see a herbalist for that sort of thing. Hope this is helpful. Miriam
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Post by ouchy on Jun 11, 2009 12:29:47 GMT -5
Nice! We have a fab farmer's market here in town - I try to hit it every Saturday morning. One of the biggest in the midwest! I was going to sign up for a farmer's share, where they give you a box of food directly from the farm once a week and deliver it to your work, but unfortunately, the deadline to sign up was the week that we found out about the pay cuts at work... So I won't get as much new stuff to try, but it's worth a shot. I figure more organics, less processed foods are the way to go! That's what we have, the straight-from-the farm share thing. Too bad about paycuts and the deadline! Boo.
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