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Post by shona on Apr 18, 2007 17:56:28 GMT -5
my thoughts are with the students and families,its on every news programme in the uk,and we are all so shocked and saddened by what has happened,but by what they are saying,they knew this guy was becoming dangerous.
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Post by ouchy on Apr 18, 2007 18:00:22 GMT -5
Yup. And apparently, he sent a video and photos and a letter to NBC (broadcasting network) between the two series of shootings!
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Post by ouchy on Apr 18, 2007 18:29:34 GMT -5
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Post by kb on Apr 18, 2007 21:56:35 GMT -5
Yeah i am in shock hey, those poor students and their families, no one should have to go through such a horrific ordeal.
Its awful that there were so many warnings and it still happened, its just like here in Oz when a gunman shot a bunch of people at Port Arthur in Tassie, the guy was a known mental patient, its not like he was a stable member of the community. All these warning signs and no power to prevent.
I feel sorry for the guy who did it too, i cant imagine what horrors he must have had in his life to drive him to that point, and he cried for help repeatedly and no one was able to.
Such an incredible waste of human life, so many people would be affected by this.
Its nice to hear stories of heroics in it all, but its awful that the heroics were needed. My heart goes out to all those affected by this tragedy.
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Post by jess333 on Apr 18, 2007 22:42:46 GMT -5
"Here is a look at some of the victims"Said by ouchy... The media!!! Isn't the only problem...Hay lets look a all my dead friends... nice ouchy...
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Post by ouchy on Apr 18, 2007 22:51:35 GMT -5
"Here is a look at some of the victims"Said by ouchy... The media!!! Isn't the only problem...Hay lets look a all my dead friends... nice ouchy... What? I have no clue what you're talking about, jess.
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Post by JackMcFarland on Apr 18, 2007 23:12:53 GMT -5
I think she read the topic portion of your last post wrong Ouchy...where you said look at the killer. I dunno?? I saw nothing wrong with it?
And from a journalistic point of view, I think the media has been OK so far. But that's just my .2...
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Post by ouchy on Apr 18, 2007 23:13:45 GMT -5
Me, too. I was saying how people in far away countries even see our bad stuff...even stuff about Anna Nicole. They never see the good stuff that happens here.
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Post by JackMcFarland on Apr 18, 2007 23:27:06 GMT -5
Actually. I lie about the media.
I just turned on CNN and the picture I saw was this dude pointing a gun. Not cool.
Here is my question, for those of you who live in Europe, is this type of thing happened in a school there - would the media show a picture of someone holding and pointing a gun to his head and to viewers?
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Post by ouchy on Apr 18, 2007 23:44:20 GMT -5
That's a good question.
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Post by JackMcFarland on Apr 18, 2007 23:51:28 GMT -5
From what I understand, and as a Jouralism student - it seems European countries don't portray their media in such an "overdone" method. Even Canada, my boyfriend says that the way they show things here in the US, in Canada that would never happen! ....They get the Naked News haha
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Post by kb on Apr 19, 2007 1:30:11 GMT -5
I dont think its that much better in Oz, occassionally will see something and say, they really shouldnt be showing that on the news.
Like after a car accident, showing the victims going into the ambulance, or showing a body with a sheet over it, completely inappropriate. Imagine if that was your family member, you wouldnt want to see that on the news, its just horrible.
haha journo student, sorry Tess am sure ull be one of the good ones, i dont really think bad stuff about all media, there is integrity there still.
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Post by kb on Apr 19, 2007 1:32:32 GMT -5
btw please try not to get offended anyone by comments made in this thread, people can become very sensitive when it comes to these sorts of things. So lets all try and remember its open discussion and no one means any harm with anything. Its a peaceful forum, lets keep it that way
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Post by cherry on Apr 19, 2007 4:45:06 GMT -5
We do end up with pictures like that coming to light yes, BBC news is very upfront but only shows definite proven fact, so with them at least we get verified info. I'm a BBC person so can't comment on other British newscasters. I woke up to pictures of that young man and his gun this morning, and I wasn't that surprised. If it was pictures from the attack that would have been different. Seeing injured people carried from the building was upsetting but nothing too gory. I welcome openness in the media cos there is no need to hide much from the public, cos even now we see that there are lessons to be learned. Knowing about these things allows us to work with our governments to change things rather than have them shepherd us and 'protect' us from the bad things that go on. We need to know to a certain degree, experience the horror along with those affected by it so that we can do things to stop it happening again. I think given the temptation to build this young man into a monster, the media has resisted it well and are letting all the facts come to light. Showing the video was necessary cos some people will get closure, but I found it very disturbing to see how angry he was, how convinced of his own twisted logic. It scares me that I have come across people with that look in their eyes. The irony is that here in the UK there has been a debate raging about whether people with certain mental illnesses should be put into care whether they have offended or not, to prevent attacks. A few cases have been brought to light of killers known to have psychosis, but have not been detained cos they had never attacked before. I think the case of Cho would be a strong argument for this to be enforced. It is so hard to know though xx
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Post by ouchy on Apr 19, 2007 7:49:46 GMT -5
I actually don't know why they didn't arrest him a couple weeks ago when he set a fire in his dorm room! That's arson of a public property!
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