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Post by puddleduck on May 13, 2008 3:20:37 GMT -5
Hello there,
I've just discovered that it's apparently possible to have many indications of ovulation such as progesterone level and temperature rise but no egg release. Has anyone been diagnosed with this at ultrasound or laparoscopy when having difficulty conceiving? How was it treated?
Did you have "ovulatory" cervical mucus changes and sustained thermal shift of basal body temperature?
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Post by JackMcFarland on May 13, 2008 9:04:15 GMT -5
I'm not sure, but I think the only way you can discover this is through keeping you BBT. Don't quote me though.
This is where I am confused... while back home on vacation I went to see a "naturalist" that my mother goes to. He took my blood around the time I should have been ovulating (I fluctuate every single month by DAYS... not just one day, but like 4 to a week). Anyway, my blood work came back with 0.8 progesterone, which is basically nothing... I was follicular phase so I should have been < 1.4. Now, a women... in order to ovulate needs progesterone, correct? How the heck am I ovulating!!!!!!!!!! Is it any rise? I mean, even if I'm not reaching 26.0 to 28.0 which is the max for luteal and mid luteal phases?! I'm confused and this Dr didn't offer any insight.... just gave me a tube of progest cream and sent me on my way! I have no idea what this means. My testosterone is great... I'm at 59 and my estrogen is at 197, which was done from 281 two years ago. Crazy, huh??
Sorry for ranting on your post puddleduck. lol just made me think of my Drs appt..... its semi relevant! haha.
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Post by puddleduck on May 13, 2008 10:38:41 GMT -5
Hi Tess,
You don't need progesterone to ovulate: progesterone is produced by the corpus luteum after ovulation after a surge of LH (luteinizing hormone). During in the follicular phase (i.e.before ovulation), progesterone should be virtually zero (as yours was). Oestrogen is dominant in the follicular phase. It sounds as though the doctor you saw hasn't explained things properly and perhaps doesn't have a full enough understanding of the menstrual cycle.
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Post by ouchy on May 13, 2008 11:05:41 GMT -5
is this the same thing as corpus luteum cyst? if so, they are rare.
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Post by puddleduck on May 13, 2008 13:58:38 GMT -5
Hi Ouchy,
LUF isn't the same as a corpus luteum cyst. Several sources state that LUF is prevalent in as many as 79% of women with Endometriosis and is more common where the ovary is affected by Endometriosis. What's not clear to me is whether it can be indicated from a BBT chart (as well as the other unanswered questions about the cause of it). I also wonder what sorts of treatment are successful to help women with LUF conceive.
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Post by ouchy on May 13, 2008 15:08:32 GMT -5
I seems to be nearly the same thing from what i'm reading.
Why are you always so worried about hormones and stuff, pd?
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